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| u2slow |
Posted: Fri May 23, 2008 10:11 pm Post subject: Goodies for the Conquest
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Groden aluminum rods, Wiseco 1400HD pistons, Brian Crower 280 cams,
A-1 headbolts, Fel-Pro head gasket, ACL race bearings
$2,000 worth of parts don`t take up a whole lot of space.
Still missing: Tail BOV, ATI damper _________________ 89 Conquest
90 Talon AWD
90 Laser RS
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| 91talon27 |
Posted: Fri May 23, 2008 10:37 pm Post subject:
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Glad you finally got the rods in. _________________ Completely stock!!!!!! For now!!!!!!!!!  |
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| blackb1rd |
Posted: Sat May 24, 2008 10:51 am Post subject:
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YES SIR! That should be NASTY! |
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| 1gTalon50trim |
Posted: Tue May 27, 2008 6:30 pm Post subject:
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that's awesome Bill. Do you already have the motor out? _________________ 98 Eagle Talon Built 420A Stage 2 Hahnracecraft Turbo Kit-Traded
93 Eagle Talon TSI AWD-Sold
95 Mitsu Eclipse GSX AWD |
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| keeler |
Posted: Tue May 27, 2008 8:30 pm Post subject:
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Oooh I see. Big PAWR. You going to get us some build up and tear down pics? _________________ 90 GSX
2003 EVO VIII |
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| u2slow |
Posted: Wed May 28, 2008 12:12 am Post subject:
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The motor`s out and it`s at the machine shop for prep.
The build this year has been painfully slow. I finally get the rods and now the machinist is going on vacation. A couple of more weeks delay.
I`ll post some pics when I get back on schedule with the build. _________________ 89 Conquest
90 Talon AWD
90 Laser RS
92 Laser RS |
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| LaserAWD |
Posted: Wed May 28, 2008 6:54 am Post subject:
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Glad to see you finally got enough parts in to get going on it Bill.
I can't wait to see it in action  _________________ Jerry
2005 Evo VIII - FP Green - no times yet
'92 Laser - 11.15 @ 124.6 : FP3052, 24psi, 93 octane - sold |
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| dsmgirl |
Posted: Wed May 28, 2008 8:40 am Post subject:
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NICE! I wish I could have had the money to do that to my Talon . Have fun with it. _________________ Yavette (Keeler's girl)
1995 Talon AWD TSI - SOLD
1993 BMW 325i - SOLD
1990 Mitsubishi Eclipse GSX |
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| u2slow |
Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 10:38 am Post subject:
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Well, I finally decided what to do with my stimulus check. Thanks George!! I guess I could say my car is now sponsored by my grandchildren.
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90 Talon AWD
90 Laser RS
92 Laser RS |
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| u2slow |
Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 8:34 am Post subject:
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I finally got a weekend off, and found a little time for the Conquest. First, on the list was the rear diff. Drained the old heavy shockproof and found bits of metal again. At least the chunks were smaller this time. New seals were installed. All those broken axles are tough on seals.
Axle comparison:
The stock axles are big when compared to DSM 4 bolts. The DSS axles weigh in at 20lbs each!
I have another heavy work schedule this week. So, I`ll have to wait until next weekend to work on these:
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90 Talon AWD
90 Laser RS
92 Laser RS |
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| blackb1rd |
Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 11:16 am Post subject:
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It's looking awful nasty Bill, can't wait to see the outcome of the rebuild.
BTW, I found a Shootout '07 video on Streetfire last night and the Quest had about 20 appearances in the 10 minute video. Local celebrity I guess. |
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| u2slow |
Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 12:21 am Post subject:
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| blackb1rd wrote: |
It's looking awful nasty Bill, can't wait to see the outcome of the rebuild.
BTW, I found a Shootout '07 video on Streetfire last night and the Quest had about 20 appearances in the 10 minute video. Local celebrity I guess. |
link please  _________________ 89 Conquest
90 Talon AWD
90 Laser RS
92 Laser RS |
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| blackb1rd |
Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 10:05 am Post subject:
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| u2slow wrote: |
| blackb1rd wrote: |
It's looking awful nasty Bill, can't wait to see the outcome of the rebuild.
BTW, I found a Shootout '07 video on Streetfire last night and the Quest had about 20 appearances in the 10 minute video. Local celebrity I guess. |
link please  |
Here "u" be...........
http://videos.streetfire.net/video/DSM-Shootouts-07_137712.htm |
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| 1gTalon50trim |
Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 1:40 pm Post subject:
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So how is the Conquest coming? _________________ 98 Eagle Talon Built 420A Stage 2 Hahnracecraft Turbo Kit-Traded
93 Eagle Talon TSI AWD-Sold
95 Mitsu Eclipse GSX AWD |
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| u2slow |
Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 11:18 pm Post subject:
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| blackb1rd wrote: |
| u2slow wrote: |
| blackb1rd wrote: |
It's looking awful nasty Bill, can't wait to see the outcome of the rebuild.
BTW, I found a Shootout '07 video on Streetfire last night and the Quest had about 20 appearances in the 10 minute video. Local celebrity I guess. |
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Here "u" be...........
http://videos.streetfire.net/video/DSM-Shootouts-07_137712.htm |
That was probably the best video of Shootout `07. I`ve seen it, but thanks for linking it, so I could watch it again  _________________ 89 Conquest
90 Talon AWD
90 Laser RS
92 Laser RS |
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| u2slow |
Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 11:22 pm Post subject:
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| 1gTalon50trim wrote: |
| So how is the Conquest coming? |
It`s just waiting for me to put it back together. Hopefully, I can get the motor/trans in the car this weekend. It`s time to make hay  _________________ 89 Conquest
90 Talon AWD
90 Laser RS
92 Laser RS |
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| u2slow |
Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2008 4:08 pm Post subject:
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| LaserAWD |
Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2008 5:23 pm Post subject:
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Lookin' good Bill!
That's interesting about the clearance of the aluminum rods, any issues to be worried about there with a little less material? _________________ Jerry
2005 Evo VIII - FP Green - no times yet
'92 Laser - 11.15 @ 124.6 : FP3052, 24psi, 93 octane - sold |
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| u2slow |
Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2008 8:25 pm Post subject:
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Yea, it caught me by surprise
Shep runs these rods along with a lot of other big HP DSMs. I`ve never heard of this being a problem. It didn`t just rub a little. I`d say about .200 was cut off. All four were machined to match.
I waited so long to get them, I wasn`t going to send them back. Groden`s weird to deal with. If he hadn`t promised me 2 week delivery, I would be running something else. I`ll probably never do business with Groden again.
Hell, I`ve got all kinds of concerns. It`s the things I never think of that bite me in the ass  _________________ 89 Conquest
90 Talon AWD
90 Laser RS
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| Southboy205 |
Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2008 8:44 pm Post subject:
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If I remember right. I think they machined the engine parts for clearance, instead of the rods on mine. _________________ Be green, recycle your exhaust! |
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| 1gTalon50trim |
Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2008 9:50 pm Post subject:
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Everything is looking good Bill. How much boost are you planning on running for the shootout this year? I'll be there rooting you on. _________________ 98 Eagle Talon Built 420A Stage 2 Hahnracecraft Turbo Kit-Traded
93 Eagle Talon TSI AWD-Sold
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| u2slow |
Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 10:03 am Post subject:
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Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 11:17 am Post subject:
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Ooooh! I like to slide it in real slow!
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There's just something really wrong about that statement and picture.
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1991 Dodge Stealth RT TT - mostly STOCK
13.89 @ 99, 4/18/2008
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| LaserAWD |
Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 3:19 pm Post subject:
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I don't know which way I would have gone with the rods Bill. That brace is important. If you had had more time you might have been able to get a girdle from Kiggly and then shave the stock brace instead of the rods. I hope it all works out for you.
Not that you need another one but I saw where a guy on projectzerog.com is starting to make adapter plates and is going to be much cheaper than Buschur. He's got it about 90% lined out. Just thought that was a note worthy sidebar for anyone looking at this thread in the future. _________________ Jerry
2005 Evo VIII - FP Green - no times yet
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Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 6:47 pm Post subject:
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I don't know which way I would have gone with the rods Bill. That brace is important. If you had had more time you might have been able to get a girdle from Kiggly and then shave the stock brace instead of the rods. I hope it all works out for you.
Not that you need another one but I saw where a guy on projectzerog.com is starting to make adapter plates and is going to be much cheaper than Buschur. He's got it about 90% lined out. Just thought that was a note worthy sidebar for anyone looking at this thread in the future. |
I`m concerned about the rods. I still have a set of Eagles. I`ve never put a rod through a block and I never want to.
I think you`re talking about Bill Hincher. I sent him a converter and an adapter plate a few months ago. hmmm _________________ 89 Conquest
90 Talon AWD
90 Laser RS
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| u2slow |
Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2008 10:18 pm Post subject:
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Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2008 11:13 pm Post subject:
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Man I really can't wait to watch the beast run in the shootout. Are you going get it tuned? _________________ 98 Eagle Talon Built 420A Stage 2 Hahnracecraft Turbo Kit-Traded
93 Eagle Talon TSI AWD-Sold
95 Mitsu Eclipse GSX AWD |
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| josh2g |
Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2008 11:24 pm Post subject:
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looks rowdy as fawk. I bet that thing is mean on the track. I wanted to swap a 4g63 into a Mitsubishi Mighty Max for some 4g63 RWD fun but I think a Starion would be a better route for sure. Car looks great man! _________________ 3DiamondAlliance, Lville, KY |
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Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 11:23 am Post subject:
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Bill,
I'm running an 86 quest with the 2.6 motor and just snapped the driver side half shaft this past weekend at MIR. Do you have any info or a contact for the DSS axles? I called today and they gave me a price of $2K for a custom set. I can do an 8.8 swap for less than that. |
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| Felix |
Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 11:52 am Post subject:
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Bill,
I'm running an 86 quest with the 2.6 motor and just snapped the driver side half shaft this past weekend at MIR. Do you have any info or a contact for the DSS axles? I called today and they gave me a price of $2K for a custom set. I can do an 8.8 swap for less than that. |
Just put another factory back in. I doubt you are running enough power through the 2.6 to need some DSS axles.
Hoquest (on the board) ran one of the higher (if not the highest) HP 2.6s for a while and never had any axle problems. For that matter, his current setup hasn't given any problems with drag radials, 450+ hp & tq, and many many drag passes. _________________ Justin
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Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 11:54 am Post subject:
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BTW...
In the future start a new thread with questions like these. That way when someone searches for info about "Starquest axles", they'll have better luck finding help.  _________________ Justin
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| u2slow |
Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 12:17 pm Post subject:
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Welcome to our board.
I have no special contact info. I can tell you that they stand behind their product. They do not sponsor me.
My car is an `89 model with 6 bolt axles. Don`t the `86 models have the smaller 4 bolts? You might consider the 6 bolt swap if you can find the stock axles.
Other things to consider:
My car weighs 2650 lbs and has a 4.875 gear ratio. I never launch over 5000 RPM or 30lbs. boost. Axles snapped like dried twigs whenever I attempted to launch at higher RPM. You just have to compromise a few things with the IRS
To be honest, I expect something to break every time I launch. Luck has been with me  _________________ 89 Conquest
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Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 12:55 pm Post subject:
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Bill,
I watched you run at MIR a few years ago I think you ran a low 9 with your first wheel stand of about 30 feet. In fact I have it on video some where.
I remember your car when Eric first put it up for sale thinking it was a great buy and you have certainly taken it to the next level.
As for my car with me in it I'm at 3230lbs and leave the line at 3600 on drag radials. I've upgraded to an 89 rear with the 6 bolt axles and put a 3:90 ring and pinion in. So far this year I've been through a clutch , drive shaft and now half shaft. I'm not making the power you are but when stuff breaks I hate putting the same thing back in. Just wondering how much abuse the stock axles will take. I've seen a few cars run low 10's high 9's with the stock axles. So I guess I'll just clean up the rear and stuff with the stockers and grab up a few spares. I think before I spend $2k on half shafts I'll do a straight axle conversion.
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Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 11:50 pm Post subject:
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The run you are talking about was on stock axles
I think the weight of your car with that gear ratio puts a lot more stress on the driveline.
I will run the IRS until it falls apart. This video shows why. Check out how much I move the steering wheel
http://videos.streetfire.net/video/in-car-fun_178074.htm
Replacing the IRS for 2 grand is a hell of a deal, IMO. I will probably have to do it at some point.
Please keep us informed on the progress of your car. What works for you might work for me too! _________________ 89 Conquest
90 Talon AWD
90 Laser RS
92 Laser RS |
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